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Michael Steele becomes 1st black RNC Chairman!

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 30, 2009



Now he has to watch his back!  We know what happens when a black man goes against the slavemasters of liberalism.

While we don’t care what color he is, the color-blind left will.  He will be portrayed as one who has betrayed his race and is only there as a token to to assist with the remaking of the rich, white Republican party.

From the story:

In a brief acceptance speech, the new GOP chairman struck a tone of inclusiveness.

“We’re going to say to friend and foe alike: We want you to be a part of us, we want you to with be with us, and for those who wish to obstruct, get ready to get knocked over,” Steele said. 

 The battle has begun anew for the soul of America! She is worth fighting for!

More as this story unfolds.

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My ears are burning!

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 29, 2009



The intolerant left can’t handle the Republicans making a stand against President Obama, placing ALL success or failure squarely at the feet of the Dems.  They believed, as did I, and I’m still not convinced this is a real shift back to their roots, that the Republicans were no longer a force to be reckoned with.  How can this be in the era of nefarious change and hope that the dead party could do this.  After all (barely) over half the country wanted this.

Their mistake is in believing that America wanted what Obama would propose over that which he was selling.  Hope and change didn’t mean socialism, trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see, and far left environmental and social policies.  They just wanted GW Bush out. 

The Dems think the era of Reagan is over and they’re right. He’s dead.  However, his principles were American through and through.  He knew government was the problem, not the answer.  He knew that the bigger a government gets, the more oppressive it becomes.  He knew that the American people were the most industrious, most benevolent citizens on Earth and would / could weather what troubles came their way.  Reagan won his landslide by extolling American virtues and strengths and made us proud of who we were.

 Yes, the Republican party is tattered and torn.  Is it dead as a national party? Perhaps.  But the traditions they once held as their platform, and generally still do, are timeless American traditions; smaller government, freedom of self-determination, the right to be born.  Those can easily be transferred to another party. Remember the Right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness?  THOSE are bi-partisan.  At least in earlier, more civil times they were.

The Dems have tried, and very successfully I might add, to split Americans every which way through race , socio-economic standing, age, religion or lack of, and any other way they could.

Through government give-aways using our tax dollars, the Dems are trying to insure they are the majority for decades to come.  They have enslaved the black population by giving them just enough to subsist and stay in the ghettos without offering them a way out on their own.  After 60 years of promises, they face the same struggles.  And still 90% of the black vote goes to the Democrats.  The black Republicans that make it to national status are ripped apart and beaten up in the complicit media for the sole reason that they credit their own will and hard work as the path to their success.  Liberal blacks get committee chairmanships and accolades.

The Dems are trying very hard to swell their ranks by legalizing illegal immigrants with an amnesty bill which will inevitably make them eligible for benefits, and thus, beholden to and enslaved by them also.  California is already reeling from the costs of giving them benefits and Pelosi, Reid and Company want to make sure the rest of us share our incomes with them too. California, if they haven’t already done so, will soon give them the right to vote through motor voter laws that do not verify their right to do so.  Rules schmules.  It’s about “empowerment.”  Yes, for the Dems.

The intolerant left will continue to vilify us, call us all kinds of names and question our IQs.  They will call us partisan, though they rule with an iron fist.  They will continue to abuse the court system with activist judges because so many of their initiatives are contrary to the voters’.   They will denigrate our parents, our religion if it isn’t inclusive of practitioners of sin and death, and even our love affair with Mayberryesque Americana.  That’s OK.  We’re bigger than that.

There’s a good chance that major harm will be done to the fabric of America by the time Obama leaves office after 4 or 8 years, but the resulting mess will require leaders.  Leaders that will once again extol the greatness of America, not her blemishes.  Leaders that will once again call for the people to join as Americans, not special interest groups.  Leaders that, quite frankly, act like Ronald Reagan – a Republican I might add.

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Iran DEMANDS apology – will Obama submit?

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 28, 2009

The Iranian thug dictator is flexing his muscle in a test of Mr. Obama’s mettle.  Speaking to the agent of change, Ahmadinejad made strong demands of this new agent of change.

Islam means to submit and a dhimmi is a non-Muslim who submits to their Muslim overlords.  As one learned in Islam, who once lived in a Muslim country, and whose father was Muslim, Mr. Obama needs to be very careful how much he panders to the fundamentalist Muslims throughout the world. 

From Fox:
TEHRAN, Iran —  Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for “profound changes” in U.S. foreign policy on Wednesday, including giving up support for Israel…

I’ve mentioned repeatedly lately that the battle lines are being drawn.  Islamic fundamentalists are moving across Asia, North Africa, the Phillipines, and sadly, Western Europe.

This is not the test of Pres. Obama that VP Biden spoke of, but to make him flinch, since he already said he’d talk to Iran without pre-conditions. So Obama has been upstaged.  The one called “The One” should have seen this coming.

My guess is that he’ll poo-poo it as a public relations stunt and move forward with the meeting plans.  Where the new president will be incorrect will be the response of the Arab street who take a sound defeat of Hamas as a victory when the IDF willingly pulls back. 

These people are not rational and to think that a friendly conversation will do anything more than show them more of how your hand is to be played is irresponsible if not irrational itself.

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Republicans found a backbone! How long will they keep it?

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 28, 2009

UPDATE: 1 hour later

OK, I was a little too happy considering the Dems just voted to give away $850 billion of our hard earned money.  But doggone it the Rs didn’t fall, again, for the “bi-partisan bullcrap the Dems speak of.  Out here in the heartland know that bi-partisanship means going along with the Dems and never the other way. Obama asked the Republicans to join him, the Dems told the Republicans to sit in the back and shut up.

Can we, even if it’s just for a moment, believe that all Republican Senators and a few Democrat Senators will stop this in it’s tracks? Please Resistors, call them and call them repeatedly and get your friends to call them!  Of course many of these guys/ women voted to confirm a tax cheat for chief tax collector and we need to slap them for that. One can hope!

Yes, we’ve taken 2 beatings these last 2 elections, but America is worth fighting for. To get involved go to and join the Patriotic Resistance!

I guess I’m still excited by this shocking turn of events.  Better late than never, Republicans! See what happens when you listen to Rush, the man who speaks for millions (and I’ll go so far to say the majority of )  of your voters.
Original post:

 I can hardly express my joy and disbelief over the Republicans unanimously voting against this pork bill that mostly serves the Dems and their social engineering agenda, and not the American people as a whole.  Even NBC’s reporter that I watched stated that there was lots of money going to liberal pet projects. Wow, what got into them? Why this sudden brush with the truth?

Even though it passed with no Republican votes, since elections do have consequences, the Republicans will have no responsibility as this so called stimulus fails as it always has in the past.  We see how well the bank bailout is working out. 

Thank you for seeing the light and hearing the voice of your people.

This is just the first battle of many.  We will support you if you do the right thing.  Remember, we’re done with having the occasional bone thrown to us to keep us clinging on . Revert to the ways of the last 6 years and we’ll move toward replacing your party with one that is responsive.   

More after I find out all the details. (And after I take my kids sledding in all this globally warmed ice and snow)

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Rush, The Republicans and real bi-partisanship

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 26, 2009


President O has recommended the Rs quit listening to Rush to get things done in Washington.  The problem is that they haven’t been.  Hence the solid beating they have taken the last 2 cycles.

If it weren’t for Rush, Hannity, Glenn Beck et al helping to get ANY of the base out for the “bi-partisan” McCain it could have been worse than the Reagan-Mondale election.  I had nearly committed to not vote for President at all until McCain engaged his brain and chose one of us as his running mate.  Like her or not, she was NOT the reason McCain lost.  We were voting against a leftist / Marxist and not really for bit less liberal McCain.

Back to Rush.  Rush has been accused of lots of things and those  who don’t listen to him take his tongue-in-cheek statements out of context.  A regular feature of his is to demonstrate absurdity by being absurd. 

No one has been harder on Republicans in the public broadcast media than Rush Limbaugh.  20 million people listen to him every week and many have their voices heard through Rush Limbaugh.  There is no one who more represents middle America than Rush Limbaugh.

Those in the small, but densely populated blue areas (moreso prior to this aberration of an election) don’t understand the middle’s love for America and our total distrust and disdain for the politicians in Washington. Of both parties. 

As recently as 15 years ago, Newt Gingrich and the Republicans won the hearts of Americans in a landslide with their ‘Contract With America’ based on traditional American values of smaller and accountable government.  He wasn’t able to get everything implemented, but it was all brought up for a vote.   Read the list below to see how b-partisan is supposed to look.

What then brings us to where we are now?  The Republicans turned and walked away.  Here’s the Contract With America from Newt’s site.

FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
Congress has a very long record of exempting themselves from laws. Health care, employment taxes especially and others.

SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
With all the mind-boggling spending going on with the Republicans and Dems it would take an army to do this now.

THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
Right.  My guess is that these have increased. Not a word since 1994. 

FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
Not gonna happen – either party.  “We need experienced chairman that know how the sytem works.”  THAT IS THE PROBLEM. They know how to WORK THE SYSTEM. 

FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;

SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
The Dems love to expel the public and hold their meetings with the Rs looking in the window, but have the Rs done the same? Probably.  If not, where’s the outcry to rectify the situation? 

SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
This one’s a little easier because they usually CUT taxes.

EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
This is where Dems love to call a decrease in increase a cut.

Thereafter, within the first 100 days of the 104th Congress, we shall bring to the House Floor the following bills, each to be given full and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote and each to be immediately available this day for public inspection and scrutiny.
This rule was in fact put in place at that time, but just a couple weeks ago was rescinded by Pelosi and company.

A balanced budget/tax limitation amendment and a legislative line-item veto to restore fiscal responsibility to an out-of-control Congress, requiring them to live under the same budget constraints as families and businesses.

An anti-crime package including stronger truth-in-sentencing, “good faith” exclusionary rule exemptions, effective death penalty provisions, and cuts in social spending for this summer’s “crime” bill to fund prison construction and additional law enforcement to keep people secure in their neighborhoods and kids safe in their schools.

Discourage illegitimacy and teen pregnancy by prohibiting welfare to minor mothers and denying increased AFDC for additional children while on welfare, cut spending for welfare programs, and enact a tough two-years-and-out provision with work requirements to promote individual responsibility.

Child support enforcement, tax incentives for adoption, strengthening rights of parents in their children’s education, stronger child pornography laws, and an elderly dependent care tax credit to reinforce the central role of families in American society.

A $500 per child tax credit, begin repeal of the marriage tax penalty, and creation of American Dream Savings Accounts to provide middle class tax relief.
They went way beyond this.

No U.S. troops under U.N. command and restoration of the essential parts of our national security funding to strengthen our national defense and maintain our credibility around the world.
Any problem with this one?

Raise the Social Security earnings limit, which currently forces seniors out of the work force, repeal the 1993 tax hikes on Social Security benefits and provide tax incentives for private long-term care insurance to let Older Americans keep more of what they have earned over the years.

Small business incentives, capital gains cuts and indexation, neutral cost recovery, risk assessment/cost-benefit analysis, strengthening the Regulatory Flexibility Act and unfunded mandate reform to create jobs and raise worker wages.

“Loser pays” laws, reasonable limits on punitive damages and reform of product liability laws to stem the endless tide of litigation.

A first-ever vote on term limits to replace career politicians with citizen legislators.
Failed on this one.

These are truly bi-partisan in nature and the Republicans took a strong majority which they held for several years after decades of minority status. 

Rush expounds and reminds the Rs on a daily basis as to what they used to stand for when they were in power.  Turning their backs on these very powerful planks and NOT listening to Rush has gotten them where they find themselves today.

Continue at your own risk, Washington Republicans, as you consider selling your soul in the new New Deal being offered in front of you.  If you sell your soul to “get along” and “get things done” don’t think a reversal of fortune is in the offing.

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Yemeni al Qaeda freed from Gitmo/ Saudi prince threatens US with jihad threat against Israel. What exactly has been going on for the last 40 years then?

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 24, 2009

But that’s okay, President Obama will speak to him when he gets a chance.

The recidivism rate among the released Gitmo detainees should make everyone stop and think about what will happen to the next 245  that our new President says he will move.  Will he ship them back to their country of origin?  Will he move them into the United States?  I guess he’s got a year to figure it out.

In this article from the NY Times  (all the news that’s fit for lefties), intel officials have confrimed that a Yemeni went form Gitmo to our “friends” the Saudis for retraining.  Now it seems he’s shown up in Yemen and moving up the ranks of al Qaeda. 

 This is NOT a war on terror, it is a war against an ideology disuised as a religion. 

The sooner we figure that out and readjust, the better off we’ll be. 

From the article:

The militant, Said Ali al-Shihri, is suspected of involvement in a deadly bombing of the United States Embassy in Yemen’s capital, Sana, in September. He was released to Saudi Arabia in 2007 and passed through a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists before resurfacing with Al Qaeda in Yemen.

Like they asked at JW: is al qaeda running the retraining camps?  Do we know who is?  Do we even care to find out? 

Now to further stir the pot read this at


“Unless the new U.S. administration takes forceful steps to prevent any further suffering and slaughter of Palestinians, the peace process, the U.S.-Saudi relationship and the stability of the region are at risk,” said Turki, a former Saudi intelligence chief and former ambassador to the United States and Britain.[…]

Former U.S. President George W. Bush’s administration had left a “sickening legacy” in the Middle East, Turki wrote, singling out the Iraq war.

The Bush administration had also contributed to the “slaughter of innocents” in Gaza, said Turki, who currently holds no official government position in the world’s top crude oil exporter.

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki wrote. He said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had written to Saudi King Abdullah last week urging Saudi Arabia to lead a “jihad,” or holy war, against Israel.

This call for jihad would, if pursued, create “unprecedented chaos and bloodshed” in the region, said Turki.

“So far, the kingdom has resisted these calls, but every day this restraint becomes more difficult to maintain,” he said.

Ah, yes, our friends the Saudis.  It is so obvious that the lines are being drawn in this clash of civilizations.

The whole article is here.

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Obama’s unity, harmony and “post-partisanship” in action – tells GOP “I won,” bipartisanship remains as it always was – go along with the Dems.

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 24, 2009

The honeymoon over so soon?  We can only hope.  A few more comments like this and we’ll be back to where we should be.  A country divided by ideologies that are polar in nature.  Freedom and self-determination or infinitely shackled by a mammoth government.

The gloves came off quickly this week as Obama acted exactly as we knew he would.  Taxpayer funding of abortion in foreign countries, vowing to release murderous thugs intent on destroying us, (though not saying where they will go), adding more and more to the “stimulus” (which appears now to be a big pork bill to buy Dem votes 2 YEARS from now) that we were told was immediately necessary.  Hmmmm.

The post-partisan, unifying, and harmonizing President told GOP lawmakers to quit listening to Limbaugh, admit they lost and get in line.

This is the best news I’ve heard since the inauguration.  Should, and hopefully will, put some rigidity into the spines of the weak-kneed Republicans.

The real Obama is showing his true Chicago thug leftist colors.  Some Republicans, though too few, are resisting his current attempt to add even MORE to the “stimulus,” which again, the bulk is to be delayed until right before the next election.  In the spirit of “bi-partisanship” they are to lay down and play dead – yeah, just like the Dems did over the last 5 years!  Ripping our soldiers and president in wartime is not bi-partisan.    Hmmmm, again.

This is a must-read for those who are discouraged on our side and very much so for those that drifted over because of some nefarious desire for change that really didn’t think this was the change they voted for.  The Dems are back in their heyday – full power and the will to stick it in the face of Republicans.

From the NY Post: 


Whether you like Rush or not, this IS a divided country along very strong lines.  If Obama wants to get some things done he’d better show his willingness to reach across the aisle.  Something Dems only do when they have a big club in their hands

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No lobbyists in the Obama Administration, unless he wants one.

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 23, 2009’s Jonathan Martin now knows why Mr. Obama wasn’t asked tough questions on the campaign trail.  It doesn’t fit with his image.  And we know it’s all about the image.

Apparently Mr. Obama was visiting those that sit around in the media work area waiting for something to report on.  A good will gesture to the bottom-dwellers. When he got the chance, Mr. Martin asked Obama about his choosing a lobbyist, against his statements on the campaign trail, to be in his cabinet.  Didn’t sit very well with The Prez.

I’m going to blow this all out of proportion, but hey, it’s a telling story. And I’m sure there’s a good deal of truth to it.

Excerpt from Fox  News:

According to reports, when the Politico’s Jonathan Martin asked the president about his nominee for deputy secretary of defense, William Lynn, Obama refused to answer, saying he was not there to take questions.

“I came down here to visit. I didn’t come down here — this is what happens. I can’t end up visiting you guys and shaking hands if I am going to grilled every time I come down here,” the president said. 

In other words, your job is to work with me on the change we need to bring to America, not to question how I get it done.

Pressed further by the Politico reporter about his Pentagon nominee, Obama turned more serious, putting his hand on the reporter’s shoulder and staring him in the eye.

“All right, come on” he said, with obvious irritation in his voice. “We will be having a press conference, at which time you can feel free to [ask] questions. Right now, I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself to you guys — that’s all I was trying to do,” reported.

The situation came to a close when a cameraman in the room interrupted, declaring: “I’d like to say it one more time: ‘Mr. President.'”

Ahh, that’s more like it.  Martin would do well to learn that flattery is the rule for Democrats if you’re to survive in Washington.  Or he may just be looking in from the outside.

The nominee in question, William Lynn, is a former lobbyist for defense contractor Raytheon, a pick Obama made in contradiction to his much-heralded anti-lobbying rules.

Those media watchdogs, the hounds of truth, guardians of the Republic haven’t had much to say on this.  It’s just a little mistake.  He probably wasn’t notified that Mr. Lynn was a lobbyist.  Heads will roll, I’m sure.  He’ll allow this to proceed THIS TIME, but will be much more careful that it doesn’t happen again.

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More of the same (actually, worse) from the Man of Change!

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 23, 2009

So it appears that Timothy Geithner will be an historic appointment, too.
The first ever black President will have the first ever admitted tax cheat for TREASURY of all places.

He willfully cheated, was caught in half of it, paid that half, was compensated to pay the other half, promised to do so and then didn’t

Yes, you’re right, we would have been pursued, persecuted, and prosecuted for doing just what he did, but he’ll be in charge of “fixing” the economic mess that he helped create. He had a hand in the first bank payout scheme and now he’s in position to do the $trillion pork-fest that O’s about to “bestow” upon us from his benevolence (and our pockets).

But as I mentioned in this post, since he is a Democrat, it was an honest little mistake, not rising to the level of (insert offense here – perjury, theft, treason, tax evasion).  This is a shameless party.  “It’s the power, stupid” should be their mantra.

And now, the loser Republicans in the Senate will vote him through because the “new President desrves to have the people he wants to pursue his policies.”  How often do the Dems give a Republican a QUALITY appointment without first digging back to junior high school disciplinary reports?  Wake up, Republicans, before you are co-conspirators in the demise of this great land!  Get some backbone just this once and start to make REAL CHANGE in Washington.

And yes, Hank Paulson is a Democrat.  You know, the one Congress gave unprecedented authority to pay off the Wall Street buddies who were about to collapse.  And that was due to..? The housing bubble created by …?  Jimmy Carter, exacerbated by Bill Clinton and fully protected and nurtured by Barney Frank, the leading Democrat on the banking committee.  The Republicans on several occasions warned of the impending crisis with Fannie and Freddie, but Bawney led the charge against doing anything about it.

And we just gave the reins of control completely over to these people.  Elections have consequences and the igorant among us will not learn so the informed need to get organized and fast.  To join the informed go to and join the Resistance!

I’m not going to link to any article since they are abundant everywhere.

Go find one and read it.

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Free speech – the true indicator of freedom!

Posted by foundersfreedom on January 22, 2009


Geert Wilders, one of the bravest men on the planet, will be tried for incitement of hatred in the Netherlands.  Since when is hate a crime? It is an emotion, like joy or sadness.

The “tolerant, peaceful Muslims” are offended by his movie, Fitna, which used their own Koran and video of actual incitement of hatred by Muslims, to prove that Isalm is here to take over the West and immigration should be stopped.  

It is a scary day when a Western government appeases those of an ideology (dressed as a religion) that have a mandate to subjugate and rule over them.  This is insanity, but England is about done and America and Canada are in their sights.

From Foxnews:  

A member of parliament in the Netherlands who has been charged with “insulting” Muslims says he fears he will be found guilty and sent to prison in only a few months.

An appeals court on Wednesday overturned a previous decision by prosecutors not to charge Geert Wilders, and ordered that he stand trial.

“The decision of the court today was so strong that there is a real chance unfortunately that there will be a guilty verdict,” Wilders told “In fact, it was so bluntly motivated that it already looks like a verdict instead of just ordering the public prosecutor to start a trial.”

Wilders, who produced a controversial film that was highly critical of the Koran last year, says he faces a maximum of two years in prison if convicted. He said he had expected to be charged, and he has retained legal assistance from a U.S.-based nonprofit to help him defend himself.

See it if you can find it –  has it.

Prosecutors initially declined last year to charge the right wing politician after he issued his short film, “Fitna,” which juxtaposes Koranic verses over footage of violence committed by Islamic terrorists.

But, the Netherlands allows private citizens to petition the courts to compel prosecution. In Wilders’ case, eight parties, including a politician from an opposing party, asked the courts to force prosecutors to bring criminal charges.

EIGHT people!

A three-judge appeals panel on Wednesday ruled that Wilders’ insults to Islam were so egregious that the principle of free speech was not sufficient defense.

He used their own texts and video to prove his point.  His point is being made by this very process, but the blindness of the multi-cultis is astounding.

“The court considers [Wilders’ film] so insulting for Muslims that it is in the public interest to prosecute Wilders,” a summary of the court’s decision said. The court explained that Wilders’ claims in “Fitna” and other media statements were “one-sided generalizations … which can amount to inciting hatred.”

Wilders on Wednesday defiantly stood by the public statements that could put him in prison.

“I lost my freedom already four and a half years ago in October 2004, when my 24-hour police protection started because of threats by Muslims in Holland and abroad to kill me,” he said.

“So of course I don’t want to go to jail as a criminal, but I don’t fear losing my freedom since I already lost my freedom in 2004.”

Where do you find politicians that would say that?  This man is a statesman!


I wish I could say that was all, but sadly it’s not.  Susanne Winter, an Austrian parliamentarian has just been CONVICTED of incitement of Muslims. 

Somebody tell me what doesn’t incite Muslims.  Dogs, pigs, alcohol, bacon, skin, catoons, Jews, Christians, Santa Claus, photographs, statuary, bibles, missionaries, hair, music, art, dancing, jokes, TRUTH about their “religion.”


This comes from The Earth Times (via

Vienna – Austrian far-right parliamentarian Susanne Winter was convicted Thursday of incitement because of her anti-Muslim statements, including the claim that Islam’s prophet Mohammed was a paedophile. A court in Winter’s home town of Graz also found the 51-year-old politician guilty of humiliating a religion. She was sentenced to a fine of 24,000 euros (31,000 dollars) euros and a suspended prison term of three months, Austrian news agency APA reported.

She dared speak the truth about Mohammed’s pedophilic marriage?  A tradition still followed today in Islamic countries that emulate the examples of the “perfect man.”

Folks, these Religion of Peacers are using our own freedoms to bring us to our knees.  Mohammed commands that all people in all the world shall worship only Allah or die.  Got it?  I’ll repeat it in shorter form – Allah or die.  Better?

It’s really not all that hard to understand if your brain is functioning.

America, of all places, should stand behind these two brave souls as a nation as well as individuals.

Tell your friends what’s going on.  Send them to It could be a matter of life or death.

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